The Breakdown
Pros
Cons
Mean-Looking, Ground-Shredding, & Long-Lasting
Tires: The Great Debate
If you want to lose friends and start arguments on social media the quickest way to do it is to ask: “What tires should I run on my motorcycle?” A close second would be asking about engine oil.
The verbal bloodbath that inevitably will follow can cause even internet debate champions to recoil in disgust, turn off notifications for the forum in the interest of self-preservation and in some extreme cases lead to a self-imposed vacation from social media. It doesn’t have to be this way.
In reality, the market is loaded with many excellent options and often the “best” choice for tires can hinge on subjective details.
- Weight of the motorcycle, rider, and luggage
- Ratio of asphalt to rocky or muddy off-road use
- Engine horsepower and rider throttle control habits
- Rider tolerance for “wiggle” or degree of traction
Regardless I’m Wading In
This review is one I really enjoyed doing because I’d heard plenty of good things about the life expectancy and performance of these Australian tires. Whenever I hear too many positive (or negative) reports about any product my curiosity peaks and I yearn to get the real story.
Given the ultra harsh conditions of riding “Down Under” I expected nothing short of perfection running them here in our North American riding conditions.
They really came through and lived up to the hype!
The Name
I like to know how to properly pronounce brand names. Something has been lost in translation with Motoz from what I can tell.
Photo from Motoz
I’ve heard many people call them “Moto-Zee” or “Mo-toes”, but I think it’s actually meant to be said “Moe-Taws” or perhaps “Mo-tOz” as in the nickname “Oz” given to AUS-tralia where the brand originates.
Yes, I’m THAT guy I’m afraid. A stickler for details.
Thank You!
I met Rick Atkinson the Managing Director for Motoz at AimExpo in 2018 and practically begged him to send me some of their tires to test out. With his help, I got in touch with Brian Cornelius from Pacific Powersports (the Motoz distributor in the US) then in turn Sébastien Cyr from Kimpex (the Motoz Canadian distributor) who sent me the tires. It took about a month because the incoming shipment from overseas hadn’t arrived yet.
Thank you all for working together to get them to me at no cost for this review.
Phew!! That was a lot of emails exchanged and effort put out by the Motoz people, but worth it.
Supply vs. Demand Issues
This illustrates the only real problem with these tires: supply. Imagine how this would have gone if I wasn’t getting help from insiders to source this set of rubber?
They’re only manufactured by one factory in Thailand but are shipped out from Australia which is literally on the other side of the world, so at times they’re harder to find here in North America than hen’s teeth.
Suppliers
Another obstacle is the fact companies like RevZilla and 2Wheel don’t seem to carry Motoz tires for reasons I can’t fathom. None of the suppliers partnered with us at wBW do, but you can buy them through other smaller competitors.
Enough about all that. Now I’ll break down how I put these tires through a wBW-level torture chamber of testing.
Testing Conditions
The Motorcycle
I had these tires mounted on my 2019 KTM 790 Adventure. This is the standard model bike but it’s equipped with the Rally mode giving it very aggressive throttle response when activated. I tend to ride the bike in Rally mode even when I’m on asphalt but sometimes switch to Street.
Distance Travelled
The testing period spanned over 3800 kms (2300 miles) comprised of about 70% on-road and 30% off-road riding. I did the majority of these miles while traveling from Alberta, Canada south to Challis, Idaho where I participated in the Klim Cow Tagz Rally 2019.
I also tacked on a 2.5 hr ride to Rigby, Idaho to tour the Klim HQ since I was within striking distance. That’s A LOT of highway riding.
You’re Doing It Wrong, Jim
This is quite humorous because the Tractionator Adventure tires are rated the opposite of that (30% on-road vs. 70% off-road). In effect the testing I did is the equivalent of asking a square peg to fit in a round hole, so bear that in mind as you read and you’ll see why I’m so impressed.
Temperature & Ground Conditions Encountered
Temperatures ranged from a low of 2 degrees Celsius (35F) to a high of 36 Celsius (96F).
I encountered plenty of cold and rainy conditions in the mountains of Montana on the Going To The Sun Road and Highway 93 in Idaho. Highway 93 in particular at the Montana/Idaho border provided excellent opportunities to lean hard into the sharp switchback curves around the Lost Trail Pass.
You can watch video footage of some of the trip down to Challis in the video below.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pdun0yxC4c]
I tested these off-road through sand, mud, dirt, gravel, and larger rock-strewn trails in addition to plenty of blacktop asphalt at speeds averaging 80 to 100mph for several hours on the I15 Highway in Montana on my way home from Idaho.
Yeah, I admit it… I might have been trying just a little bit to destroy these tires.
Cargo
The majority of the testing involved carrying me (180lb rider + full riding gear) and 45lbs of gear on the back divided into two pieces of luggage seen in the photo above. The rear one is an SW Motech tour pack.
Off-road I carried the essential tools and supplies in a Nelson Rigg pack weighing 25lbs.
Tire Air Pressure
At no time during testing did I adjust my tire pressure. I ran at the factory recommended setting for on-road and off-road.
About The Tractionator Adventure
On Motoz’s website, I found great information about the tires as you’ll see in the photo below.
If you look at the top and bottom lines of this list you’ll see a tread depth measurement at center for the 90/90-21 front and 150/70-18 rear tires I was sent. 12mm front and 15mm tall for the rear are HUGE lugs and a bold claim by Motoz.
I measured the tires sent to me and came up about one and a half millimeters short at 10.73 front and 12.53mm rear. It’s possible I was off a little bit with my measurements, but I suspected the truth was the lugs aren’t always uniformly manufactured. Not a big deal really as these are still very large knobbies to work with.
I apologize for the fuzzy before photos below. They’re clear enough to read the measurement but could be better.
**Note: The angle I’m holding the measuring calipers at for the before photos aren’t at 90 degrees to the tire because they’re posed in an attempt to get a clearer image of the display readout. When I was measuring initial tread depth I did it several times to ensure I got it right.
Measurement of tread depth on the rear tire.
Measurement of the front tire tread depth.
How Much Wear?
After punishing these off road-biased tires with so much on-road riding for almost a week I arrived home and excitedly measured the tread blocks to see how much rubber was left. Here are the results:
- Rear tire average tread depth measurement when I got home: 9.83mm
I measured in four different places and then averaged the depth out to find I’d only lost about 2.7mm of tread. Wow!
Based on that it’s wearing off approximately 0.72 millimeters of tread every 621 miles (1000kms). If that trend continues this rear tire should last until roughly the 10,000 mile mark (16,000kms) if my math is correct.
I realize almost no one wears their adventure tire down to 1mm of tread before replacing them. Perhaps a more realistic estimate for longevity would be 7000 or 8000 miles? Either way it’s still as good or better resilience than most competition rubber available.
The Front Tire Results
I measured an average of 10.55mm on the front.
You read that correctly. I only lost 0.18 millimeters off the front tire in 2300 miles. Basically I wore off the rubber hairs and that’s it. That means the front tire is losing 0.047 millimeters every 621 miles and COULD mean this tire could last a mind-blowing 12,000 miles (20,000 kms).
Again, realistically no one runs adventure tires down completely so I would knock a few thousand miles off it at least. I would likely replace front and rear tires together at the 7000 or 8000-mile mark realistically based on what I see here.
What If… I Messed Up?
Due to my obsessive nature and desire to get the straight goods on any review I had to find out whether I made a mistake with my measurements of the tire.
I sent a Facebook message to Motoz Australia asking them to provide me with photos showing measurements of two new Tractionator Adventure tires. Here are the photos they sent clearly showing 12mm and 15mm lugs on new tires.
Front tire tread measurement from Motoz.
Rear tire measurement from Motoz
Seeing this made me seriously wonder whether I might have messed up.
Enter The Tread Depth Gauge
I’m a licensed diesel mechanic who moonlights as a motorcycle reviewer. I’ve rebuilt engines and made critical adjustments to many systems with tight tolerances in my career. As such, I’m confident in my ability to measure accurately using the right tool for the job. With this in mind I immediately ran out to get a purpose-built tread depth gauge like the one used by the Motoz rep in the photos.
I can’t go back in time and measure the initial tread depth, but I figured if there was a flaw in my technique using the calipers (or any issue with their accuracy) I would get a different measurement on the bike now.
The front tire showing a measurement of just over 10mm.
The rear tire showing a measurement between 9 and 10mm.
As you can see this tread depth gauge appears to back up what I found using the calipers. The calipers are more fine in their ability to measure down to hundredths of a millimeter unlike this new depth gauge used.
It’s registering about halfway past the 9mm mark on the rear tire which jives with my 9.83mm average.
The new front tire measurement appears to be only slightly above 10mm or perhaps bang on. So I may have been 0.55mm off with my front tire measurement after running the tire, but that won’t change the projected life expectancy very much in reality.
This leads me to believe that my before use measurements were fairly accurate and I didn’t start with 12 and 15mm respectively. Possibly it was 11 and 13mm though because I admit I’m only human.
Worst Case Scenario
Let’s assume for a moment I did measure completely wrong and the rear tire did begin with 15mm of tread depth and now has 9.83mm remaining. That means it wore down 5.17mm in 2300 miles (3700 kms), which is just over double what I calculated starting from 12.53 mm.
In this scenario the rear tire is wearing at a rate of 1.4 mm per 621 miles (1000 kms), meaning I should still get around 5000 to 6000 miles (8000 to 10,000 kms).
That’s still just as good or better longevity than most adventure tires on the market today. More on that later.
Would It Wear Faster Used More Off-Road?
Possibly, but these tires were built specifically for that application, so maybe not. “Off-road riding” is a very broad description and certain types of off-road terrain will kill tires faster than others as everyone knows.
Had I spent more time riding in large sharp rocks I believe there would have been more damage to the lugs. I did legitimately log about 690 miles (1110kms) off-asphalt with about 90% of that time spent on gravel and dirt. 10% of that riding went on in sections with larger, tire-shredding sharp rocks.
I enjoy drifting the rear end in the gravel, dirt, and other soft stuff too so don’t think for a minute I took it easy at any point during the off-road testing. Having said that, the 790 adventure standard isn’t the 790 adventure R model which is designed for more extreme off-road riding. I used this bike as KTM intended it to be. According to KTM, this is the most off-road capable, on-road motorcycle. I didn’t log any wild singletrack miles with it.
Conversely, KTM says the 790R model is the most on-road capable, off-road motorcycle.
The Grip
These tires found traction on everything I threw at them with the exception of two specific instances: sand and wet clay.
I had the front tire slip a couple of inches in a sharp turn on powdery sand in a switchback before it caught traction again. I believe just about any other tire would have left me laid out on the ground in this scenario. This was a thin layer of talcum powder spread out on top of hard-packed sand.
Very slippery indeed. Motoz makes other tires more suited to sandy conditions than this Adventure one. The other slip came in a puddle of clay where no tire could have held true. Not even this beauty did, but I didn’t go down. I just slid a little before regaining traction.
The rest of the time off-road that front tire was glued to the ground and filled me with confidence to ride as aggressively as necessary.
The rear tire never slipped in anything.
On-Road Grip
I was concerned a tire so heavily off-road biased would be snakey on asphalt, especially when wet.
Nope. They were rock solid even right from new. After realizing this I gained enough confidence in them to lean into turns at higher speeds just as hard as I do with any other tire.
The Competition
I have quite a bit of experience riding on two other comparable Adventure tires that are consistently rated very highly by riders the world over.
I rode an Africa Twin outfitted with Mitas E09 and E10 tires from Dawson City, Yukon up the Dempster Highway in June 2018.
Those tires had impressive grip on gravel and dirt, but when they were new they were all over the place on asphalt. Especially scary are these 20% on road 80% off-road tires on wet asphalt. Even DRY asphalt was no better until they had a couple of hundred miles on them.
Those Mitas tires lasted close to 5000 miles before needing to be replaced and I would rate them good overall, but they come up short compared to these Motoz ones.
The E09 front in a 90/90-21 size costs about $90 USD. The rear E10 in a 150/70-18 costs $163 USD which is considerably less expensive than the Motoz ones.
Continental TwinDuro TKC80
This is the heavyweight champion of Adventure tires. The legendary Continental Twinduro TKC 80 rated 40% on-road 60% off-road and is the most popular choice for serious riders because of the excellent traction and handling.
I can’t disagree with that assessment of the TKC80, it’s a brilliant tire that’s priced lower than these Motoz ones while providing the same degree of traction.
- Front: $86 for KTM 790 Adventure 90/90-21 tubeless
- Rear: $178 for KTM 790 Adventure 150/70-18 tubeless
Having said that, TKC80 tires wear out FAST. Many riders only get 3000 miles (4800kms) out of them. The front tires especially are prone to cupping and wearing very unevenly.
The other gripe I have is how noisy they are on asphalt and the vibration caused by the large lugs transmitted to the rider via the handlebars.
After spending just 2300 miles on the Motoz rubber, I’ll take them any day over the TKC80.
Motoz Tire Noise
The Motoz TA tires do make a fair bit of noise too. Not as loud as the TKC80 tires, but there’s a high-pitched whine present on asphalt that reminds me of an old air raid siren call. I wonder if this will get worse as the tires get older.
***Update at 11,000 km: The tires are still making the same amount of noise, but aren’t bumpy at all***
It’s impressive that tires with such aggressive treads like these don’t cause any vibration in the bike. Even after about 2300 miles (3700 kms) the lugs on the tires are still as flexible as they were when new.
Heavier Steering
The front Motoz Tractionator Adventure isn’t popular with some people because of the effect it has on steering.
The higher profile combined with large lugs on the sides of the tire seems to grab asphalt in such a way as to make the steering feel heavier than most other tires I’ve ridden. I did notice this when taking turns in the beginning and wondered if I would be able to get used to it.
After a while, it didn’t bother me at all to my relief, but it’s something to prepare yourself for before taking off on your bike after getting these tires installed.
Final Thoughts
Motoz has created a fantastic product for adventure bikes in these tires. I’m pleased to find the rumors weren’t untrue or overblown. One of the three 1200GS riders I met in Idaho at the Klim Cow Tagz Rally bought a set after watching me running around on them for two days.
I can’t recommend them enough at this point in time. I’m tempted to give them a 5/5 score, but would rather wait and see how much they change as they near the end of their serviceable life first.
It blows my mind how good they are on the road, re: traction and longevity. I honestly would have thought they’d be more like the Mitas tires I experienced before, but they’re not.
Good job Motoz! I’ll keep running these tires a good while longer and update this review with any new findings.
8000 km (~5000 miles) Update!
I’m still running these tires and have just reached an important milestone with them so it’s time for an update.
I’m still treating them badly with about 80% or more being on-road use, but I do get in gravel and dirt pretty regularly too. The performance is still outstanding and I truly love the grip and traction on every surface encountered.
It appears that the rate of wear is increasing on the front tire radically due to some cupping appearing in the center lugs as you can see in the photos above and below.
This cupping started about 500 miles ago and it’s making taking measurements very difficult now, but you can sort of see the highest point has about 9mm remaining. It depends whether I measure down to the wear bar or to the base of the tire.
Naturally, I’ll replace the tire before it gets right down to racing slicks. There’s about a 1 mm difference.
The rear tire is still wearing very evenly and well, although I’ve noticed if I really goose the throttle on pavement that I get spin now instead of a solid grip as I used to. Motoz claims that the lugs self sharpen appear to be true as you can see in the photo above.
Still, there’s more than 5mm remaining before the wear bars and I’m confident I’ll get 10,000kms (6000 miles) minimum out of the rear tire. That is what I described as the worst-case scenario above, but in reality, means getting my money’s worth out of them in my opinion.
I’ll continue to update this review when I truly get to the end of the road with these Motoz beauties.
The next question is which tires should I review next?
The Final, FINAL, Word At Long Last
After 14,700 km or 9100 miles, I decided to call it a wrap on this awesome tire review! The rear tire when measured in several spots has on average about 3mm remaining on the lugs when measured to the wear bar strips and 3.5mm going down to the base.
It still finds traction without any issues at this advanced stage in life to my astonishment, and realistically I should just keep running them for another thousand miles before changing it out. My original guesstimate of 10,000 miles or 16,000 kilometers was about right. I’m completely satisfied with the performance and life of the rear tire and strongly recommend it.
The front tire hasn’t fared nearly as well as the rear but still finds traction as well. The cupping and scalloping have become so pronounced that there’s no way I’ll come close to the original guesstimate of 20,000 km I hoped for. Despite that, I was able to measure roughly 1.5mm of tread remaining even at the lowest point before the wear bars, although I admit it’s very difficult to measure accurately at this point.
I won’t as readily recommend the Tractionator Adventure front tire now in hindsight because of this exaggerated wear and how heavy it steers when brand new. I’m told the Tractionator RallZ front tire is a better performing option although it doesn’t last quite as long comparatively speaking. I’ve reached out to Motoz to ask about getting a set of RallZ, but should they oblige my request I’ll likely mount them on a different motorcycle than this 790 adventure for that review.
I’ve already mounted some Bridgestone Battlax Adventurecross AX41 tires on the 790 and testing is already nearing the 600 miles mark. So far, the AX41s are more nimble in the corners on the asphalt where they can reach much higher speeds without inducing any wobbles, but they don’t grip nearly as well as these Motoz tires do.
The jury is still out on them, but at this early stage, I find myself longing for the Tractionator Adventure tires whenever I venture into the slippery world of off-road adventure riding.
Pros
- Excellent traction on just about any surface
- Slow wearing, long-lasting tread
- Overachieves on asphalt for a 30% on-road rated tire
- Self-sharpening knobbies
- No vibration
- No slippage on asphalt even when brand new
Cons
- More expensive compared to many other brands
- Front tire steers a little heavier than others
- Limited supply in North America
Specs
- Manufacturer: Motoz Tires
- Find a Dealer: USA
- Buy: Kimpex (Canada)
- Price when tested: $107 and $202
- Made in: Thailand
- Sizes: Multiple sizes in Tube (TB) or Tubeless (TL)
- Safety Designations: DOT
- Review Date: October 11, 2019
Awesome, always enjoy thorough reviews of Adv tires. I killed a set of TKC80 on my Elefant, and am now running the Shinko 804/805.
I personally like the 804/805 better because they feel like they have more grip on road, and to me give better feedback. They wear not quite as fast as the TKC did.
I’ll add the Tractionators to the want to try list in the future, if I can source them. If not the 804/805 are easy to get and my top preference right now.
I’ve heard good things about the Shinko tires in general and want to review them at some point to see for myself.
It’s always curious to me how one minute you read about someone raving about a tire and how there couldn’t be a better one anywhere, then two comments down someone else will absolutely despise the exact same tire. How can people have polar opposite experiences with the same product? Well, I know everyone is different and to me that’s usually the answer.
I have a friend who is the most brutal unofficial product tester I’ve ever seen. Anything he buys that lasts more than a month I immediately put on my must own list. If it lasts 6 months for him it will last years in my hands.
Thanks for the feedback!
I fitted the Motoz Tractionator GPS tyre to my Super Tenere.
I have just replaced the front tyre at 12,000klm’s and the back still have a few K’s remaining.
Overall I am happy with them except they are deadly in the wet. I have spun them up in 6th gear coming round a gentle bend in the wet on a few occasions. When riding more aggressively I find they feel like they are about to slip out on 3/4 lean so I have lost confidence in them in hard cornering.
I will admit that I am only an average rider so someone with more ability may feel different in the handling in the wet.
Hi Andrew!
I’m at roughly the same mileage on my Tractionator Adventures on my 790 and the rear is about 1mm remaining with not much more in the front left. I haven’t tried the GPS but am surprised to hear they’re slippery on wet pavement. The Super Ten is a different bike than my 790 to be sure, but I haven’t experienced any slip on wet or dry tarmac with the Tractionator Adventures. Perhaps this is a traction control setting difference? I tend to leave mine set about about mid level interference. Have you got yours switched off, perhaps?
Thanks for the comment. For your next tires I would recommend the Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires which I hear are outstanding both on and off road. A true 50/50. I’m keen to test some myself, in fact.
I had two fronts and my buddy had one. Both cupped dangerously in less than 1000 miles.
I’m the buddy mentioned above. The rear was pretty good and long lasting but the front was destroyed in less then 1000 mi. Mine was the “new” version that was supposed to have fixed the reported cupping problems.
Ben and Brian I’ve now got the cupping beginning as you can see in the newly added photos above at the end of the review.
The difference is that it didn’t begin until close to 5000 miles. I’m curious now to see how long they’ll last from here before becoming unusable.
Hi Ben and Brian!
Thanks for the input. I’ve heard tales of the front tire woes you describe from others as well (unless it’s yours I heard). I don’t doubt it’s true, but I just can’t echo the experience. My front tire hardly seems touched and I don’t loft the front end on my 790 at all in my riding.
There definitely could be some issues with consistency from the Motoz tire factory. I still can’t be certain my tires started with the full 12mm and 15mm high knobs on them at this point much to my shame. If my measurements were true then it would support the idea that there are some issues.
I believe my front tire is the old style based on the pattern. Does that jive with your observation or have I got the new ones? It should be new because I had to wait for them to arrive from overseas. They weren’t stored in a warehouse somewhere to my knowledge.
Motoz Aus hasn’t responded to my question about the tread depth sadly. Rick must be busy or dodging me, eh?
Hi Jim,
Have been waiting to read your review of the Motoz tires but your on-bike video ride review is redacted!!! The audio keeps cutting out. Most important right in the middle 6:15 to 8:55, when your audio cuts back in as you are talking about the tire whine… missed it all!
Hope you can fix the audio issues and re-upload it.
Hi Marko!
I’m sorry about that audio gap, it’s not what I wanted it to be. Unfortunately after I uploaded the video to YouTube they informed me that I was in copyright violation of a song playing in the background (on my Sena 10C Pro) and as such the video wouldn’t be available in 247 countries as a result! The only option was to mute the audio in that section or be censored.
Luckily, the commentary about the tires was mainly still intact in the rest of the video. There’s a second video towards the end of the review where I successfully recorded the whine off the tires you can refer to.
I like this interesting post, and human’s longevity can be indefinetely extended being discovered by Allen Omton and Serge Dobrow.
John Logger
Running a GPS on the back of my DR650. Best 50/50 tire yet out of a Karoo 3, IRC GP – 1 and OEM B’Stones. Should get 12,000 miles out of it, excellent on and off road traction. Motoz fan now.
DRRider I’ve heard many people praise the GPS like you. There are plenty of options out there to choose from and all seem pretty good, but I think there are a few standouts and Motoz seems one of them. I can’t wait to put more off road miles on mine. If only winter would go away…
Great review. I’ve started doing a little off road training on my GS and I’m very interested in these tires.
I really don’t have the off-road riding / off-road tire experience to comment meaningfully, but I did a little running review of the somewhat hard-to-find Anlas Capra-X tires over on the R1200GS forums, also linked from my infrequent bloggo-thing, for those who might be interested. They are in the same “aggressive blocks” category as the Tractionator Adventure.
Not sure if linking is allowed here?
https://markdrummond.ca/capra-x.html
Hi Mark!
That’s actually the next tire I’d like to review (Anlas Capra X) as I ran into the reps at EICMA back in November. They make some impressive claims about their tires when it comes to grip and longevity. They sound like great competition for the Motoz Tractionator series.
I don’t mind linking to your work here as long as it doesn’t turn into spam or something like that.
Jim,
Great review. You were up in my neck of the woods(Kalispell, MT) so gives me an apples to apples comparison on roads. What ‘s your thoughts on how they would hold up on a larger bike. Say my 2013 Triumph 1200 Explorer for example? Thanks!
Hi Garth! Man, I love Kalispell, especially the pizza at Moose’s Saloon! I’ve stayed there more than once after riding the Going To The Sun Road. Beautiful riding country.
Are you off roading that big Tiger?! I haven’t heard of many people doing that so if you are that’s awesome! I don’t think they would last quite as long on bigger bikes, but should be respectable. I’ve heard from riders of 1200GS and 1190 KTMs using Motoz tires though usually they run the Motoz Tractionator GPS instead of the Adventures because they tend to spend more time on asphalt than in the dirt and the GPS last longer. I suppose it depends just how off road you want to go with such a heavy bike. In my mind if the TKC80 does well on the bigger bikes (and they do) then these Motoz ones should too.
I always stop short of completely endorsing a tire I’ve tested on a different bike than the one being asked about. The power and weight of your Tiger is significantly higher than on my 790 after all. If you’re willing to roll the dice on it I’d love to hear back from you in these comments about how they perform on the Tiger.
Why is the front tyre on backwards or im i going blind, or is it reversible.
Hi Adrian!
These tires are directional with arrows stamped in the sidewalls, so it should be on correctly as they were installed by my KTM dealer. I’ll double check in a minute and get back to you.
I know the Motoz GPS can be flipped around and used either way, but I don’t think that’s the case with the Adventure. Good question though.
Adrian I went and had a look. There’s an arrow on the front and rear tire indicating they’re installed correctly. I see what you mean though with the way the pointy center treads seem to appear backwards from direction of travel.
Important:
The rotation of the Motoz tractionator adventure tire now seems to have changed rotation direction. I compared the mounting of this tire in this article to the arrow direction on the tire I bought from chaparral Moto. Is exactly opposite to the rotation of my tire…my front tire started cupping to a great amount of depth… I can’t believe it. It’s the same tire everyone has had trouble cupping and now shows up with opposing rotation. Could this be the headache everybody is having with this tire. Incidentally I just stumbled across this.
Mike A
Hi Mike!
Actually my front tire is just barely beginning to show signs of slight cupping now too and I’m at 5600kms now.
I haven’t posted an update yet as I want to get some more miles on first to see what happens.
The reversed tread may or may not be the answer.
The tires are still running great for traction! Loving them.
Had a look at other riders pics of same tyre and yours is the only one i can find with it fitted that way round. I was aware the rear was reversible 50/50 one way or mainly for off road on reversed but not the front.
Interesting! I’ve heard that the front adventure tires were changed by Motoz from the original design. I wonder if I have a new one or an older one? Perhaps that’s the difference?
It’s working very well for me even still. Barely any wear on it and excellent traction as mentioned in the review.
FYI……New tread depth is normally given by most tire manufactures in a deflated uninstalled condition. An installed tire that is inflated will have less tread depth by a couple mm’s than uninstalled. Your tire looked to be installed and inflated in pictures, but I may be mistaken. Great review. Now if we can only find a set!
Hi Shane!
Ahh I didn’t realize that and you’re correct. The photos of the tires from Motoz are uninflated while mine are inflated and installed on the bike. That could be the difference.
Btw, I’m over 7000 km now on my tires and the rear is starting to get down there thanks to some spirited riding in the mountains of British Columbia recently. They still grip really well, but when I goose the throttle on pavement I do get a little slip happening now when I didn’t before. I’ll do another update soon.
Absolutely brilliant tires, but yes difficult to find sometimes.
Thanks for the input!
I just got a set of Anake Wild for my 2020 790R. My stock Karoo 3s have over 6000 km on them and the Anake Wilds will be going on very soon. Why don’t you do a review on them ?
Hi Paul!
I’ve heard mixed reviews on the Anakee Wild adventure tires. I’m a fan of Michelin tires though so I like your suggestion and will consider it.
I’m actually pretty serious about putting on the Anlas Capra X tires next as I think they’d be a good comparison for the Motoz TAVs I’m running now. With how slowly the front is wearing I might actually install a Bridgestone AX41 rear and see if the front Motoz tire and the AX41 wear out the same time.
Thanks for the suggestion!
I have measured Motoz GPS tyre depths and they have been way short of what Motoz cited in their web page.
I brought this to the attention of Motoz and they said they were going to review their documentation. For the GPS they did change the depths on the web site but they still quoted more than i measured.
However, the GPS performed great wet or dry sealed roads and OK off-road. On BMW 1200GS i got 12,500 kms & the fronts more. The front scalloped some, was noisy & could feel it on sealed roads bit performed til the end of the tyre life.
Others i ride with have used the Tractionator Adventure and they perform like in this article. Very good tyres from Motoz.
HI pAUL!
Thanks for letting me know about this discrepancy. I’m working on getting a set of the RallZ tires to review next, but supply has been all but non-existent to this point. I’m currently testing some Bridgestone AdventureCross AX41 tires on my 790 and it’s been quite a contrast to the Motoz TAs. The AX41 is much better on asphalt. I can go well over 100mph without inducing the wobbles I encountered on the Motoz and off-road the AX41 are also quite good. I would say not as good as the Motoz are there, but a nice compromise since I ride primarily on-road. The only big difference is longevity. The AX41 are wearing much faster comparatively. I haven’t measured yet to know for sure, but I’m just below 3000kms now and they look noticeably worn.
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Thank you Zortilo!
I have now acquired a full set of Motoz Rallz that I’ll be testing in 2022 that I’m looking forward to and if you haven’t heard about the new Motoz Dual Venture (DV) front tire take a look because it seems to be the tire Motoz developed to replace the Adventure front. It doesn’t steer as heavy and is reversible to promote longer life.
Once I can get one of those in hand I’ll review it as well.
Any thoughts on using an AX41 front with the MotoZ adventure rear? I like onroad performance and want to avoid heavy steering. On the flip side, a lot of offroad riding down here consists of desert and sand… Small KTM 390 Adv btw.
Hi Bruno!
Great question! I haven’t ridden a 390 adventure but a quick google search shows a wet weight of about 390lbs, so it’s significantly lighter and less powerful than my 790. You’ll find less wheel spin and better tire longevity for that reason unless you’ve always got the bike loaded down with a passenger/luggage and ride it like you stole it.
The front AX41 should work on that bike, but speaking as someone who rides in Canada where sand is scarce to non-existent I can’t say for sure it’s the tire for where you ride. My gut says something a little more aggressive would be better, but I think it’s very subjective. Kyle Bradshaw really likes the AX41 and he rides in CA and AZ. He tells me that the AX41 isn’t nearly as good in deeper sand as the Motoz Rallz and Desert HT are, but in shallow sand it’s a wash.
I wonder if pairing a very nimble front tire like the AX41 with a stiffer and grabbier tire like the Motoz Tractionator Adventure rear might create a conflict of performance since they’re very different shapes? I haven’t tried it so I can’t say definitively either way. It might work very well!
I would caution one more thing about the AX41 on your 390. It has very soft sidewalls and your bike has mag wheels on it. I dented my 790 front rim while it wore the AX41 and got a bad sidewall slash as well. My rims are spoked and stronger than your mag rims, so there is a bigger risk of wheel damage to your 390 riding over bigger rocks and off ledges if your suspension bottoms out.
Personally, I would go for a stiffer sidewall tire to get added protection and better grip off-road where I want more help when things get dicey, but you prioritize on-road handling if I understand correctly. On-road I reign myself in a bit more for that reason, but I still have fun. For my riding style, I would go with the Motoz tires on the front over the AX41. There’s another option for you to explore in the new Motoz Dual Venture front tire which looks very promising and like an in-between tire to suit the riding you want to do. Motoz claims slightly stiffer than the AX41 and thus longer-lasting, while also providing good on-road handling. I haven’t tested it yet though and can’t say for sure, but Motoz are my preferred tires for any terrain.
Heidenau also just released a new K60 Ranger which looks a lot like an Anakee Wild, so there’s another possibility for you to explore if you can get your hands on them. My friend is currently running an Anakee Wild on the front with a Motoz Tractionator Rallz on the rear and thinks it’s a great combination.
Don’t forget the brand new Metzeler Karoo 4 which is coming this year! These are all worth considering and are high on my list to review. I hope I helped you and didn’t further muddy the waters.
Thanks so much for the great feedback! There’s three of us on the same bike. We decided to try dome different combos. We have one on MotoZ dual venture front/Motoz Adventure rear, one on AX41 Front / MotoZ Adventure rear and I’ll try the full AX41 set; I’ll just run stock pressures offroad given the softer sidewall.
Oh I love it and would value hearing how all these combos perform for you three! Clearly, you all had the same thoughts I do, bravo! Just to be clear I ran stock pressure in my AX41 tires as well and only remember bottoming the suspension once with the AX41 on the bike. Hopefully the lighter 390 will fare better.
Would be happy to report back! Yea, the 390 definitely isn’t a high speed type of offroad bike. Better suited for slow to moderate pace. On the flip side, the suspension is pretty stiff; better than I expected.